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Help[Opinions] Re: That's totally different, though (m)
in reply to a message by Julia
I have to ditto this. Shakespearean names are not really the same as sitting down and pulling vowels and consonants out of a hat. Or worse, glomming names together as such: McKin'zandraleigh.
This message was edited 6/18/2008, 8:23 PM
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Wait, wait, wait.
Saronia is a name without any unnecessary letters and an intuitive pronunciation. Explain to me again how it is in any way comparable to McKin'zandraleigh.
So you don't like it. Fine. That doesn't mean that, objectively, it's a bad name. That means it's not to your tastes. If you want to bitch about made up names, bitch about the ones that suck--that really are difficult for the bearer due to confusing spellings or unintuitive pronunciations. In a world where most of the populace doesn't give a rat's ass whether Nancy and Hannah come from the same root, complaining that Saronia is stupid and made up and icky gross get it away from me Shakespeare didn't do it like that seems to me patently ridiculous.
(And before anyone's dander gets raised, that last bit's meant generally, not personally to you. ♥)
Array (take it to Manhattan, 'cause she doesn't want it)
Saronia is a name without any unnecessary letters and an intuitive pronunciation. Explain to me again how it is in any way comparable to McKin'zandraleigh.
So you don't like it. Fine. That doesn't mean that, objectively, it's a bad name. That means it's not to your tastes. If you want to bitch about made up names, bitch about the ones that suck--that really are difficult for the bearer due to confusing spellings or unintuitive pronunciations. In a world where most of the populace doesn't give a rat's ass whether Nancy and Hannah come from the same root, complaining that Saronia is stupid and made up and icky gross get it away from me Shakespeare didn't do it like that seems to me patently ridiculous.
(And before anyone's dander gets raised, that last bit's meant generally, not personally to you. ♥)
Array (take it to Manhattan, 'cause she doesn't want it)
This message was edited 6/18/2008, 9:40 PM
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I think you're putting deeper meaning behind what I said than is actually there. I was not comparing McKin'zandraleigh and Saronia... at all.
McKin'zandraleigh was pulled right out of my ass in the moment. It was a different beast from a different tangent entirely. It's nothing to do with whether any made up name (be it Saronia or what have you) has unnecessary letters or an intuitive pronunciation. I was simply dittoing Julia's sentiment regarding Lillian's defense of willy nilly made up names vs. made up names taken from existing words and elements, and McKin'zandraleigh (Mickey for short :p) was thrown in at the end almost as an afterthought. Like, "Well at least neither side offered up this."
I said my bit about how Shakespeare's names were different from randomly made up names which just sound pretty (do you remember when I first joined up here on BtN and my absolute all-time favorite name was Nykara?) and the Mickey part was a big ol' piece of Shayna-putting-in-more-inconsequential-tidbits-than-necessary pie. I should have left it at "Ditto" and that be that.
My dander's not raised, I'm just frustrated that I'm not clear enough when I write. I really hadn't meant what you said here. I'm not trying to bitch at you back. If I was, I don't think this would have worked anyway :P
Oooh, and also while I'm at it, I'm not this huge Shakespeare Is God type either. I just used him as the example given of name creators.
McKin'zandraleigh was pulled right out of my ass in the moment. It was a different beast from a different tangent entirely. It's nothing to do with whether any made up name (be it Saronia or what have you) has unnecessary letters or an intuitive pronunciation. I was simply dittoing Julia's sentiment regarding Lillian's defense of willy nilly made up names vs. made up names taken from existing words and elements, and McKin'zandraleigh (Mickey for short :p) was thrown in at the end almost as an afterthought. Like, "Well at least neither side offered up this."
I said my bit about how Shakespeare's names were different from randomly made up names which just sound pretty (do you remember when I first joined up here on BtN and my absolute all-time favorite name was Nykara?) and the Mickey part was a big ol' piece of Shayna-putting-in-more-inconsequential-tidbits-than-necessary pie. I should have left it at "Ditto" and that be that.
My dander's not raised, I'm just frustrated that I'm not clear enough when I write. I really hadn't meant what you said here. I'm not trying to bitch at you back. If I was, I don't think this would have worked anyway :P
Oooh, and also while I'm at it, I'm not this huge Shakespeare Is God type either. I just used him as the example given of name creators.
This message was edited 6/18/2008, 11:02 PM
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I'd argue that McKin'zandraleigh has a perfectly intuitive pronunciation. mc-kin-ZAN-drah-lee. And I don't see any unneccesary letters. You can't take any out without changing the pronunciation. If Ys were substituted for all the vowels and there were random Hs thrown in there, yes. But McKin'zandraleigh, while unfortunate, does not fit my definition of "having random letters".
So you don't mind Urhines Icy Eight Special K and Aryan Justice because they don't have confusing spellings or unintutitive pronunciations? I don't understand how that can be the only logic for making a name "bad".
I'd love to take it to Manhattan. But plane fares are really killer these days.
So you don't mind Urhines Icy Eight Special K and Aryan Justice because they don't have confusing spellings or unintutitive pronunciations? I don't understand how that can be the only logic for making a name "bad".
I'd love to take it to Manhattan. But plane fares are really killer these days.
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So you don't mind Urhines Icy Eight Special K and Aryan Justice because they don't have confusing spellings or unintutitive pronunciations? I don't understand how that can be the only logic for making a name "bad".
Lol, no. Comparing a name that possibly means "star" to a name that means "different kinds of drugs" or "whitey rules"? Not the same thing. Please don't simplify my opinions to what they're not; it's irritating.
Array
Lol, no. Comparing a name that possibly means "star" to a name that means "different kinds of drugs" or "whitey rules"? Not the same thing. Please don't simplify my opinions to what they're not; it's irritating.
Array
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