[Opinions] River, Rivers, Riviera and Relic
just some word names I've had on my mind.
River I've been thinking about for a girl
Rivers would lean male I think as it seems more surnamish (?)
Riviera as female
Relic as male
WDYT?
River I've been thinking about for a girl
Rivers would lean male I think as it seems more surnamish (?)
Riviera as female
Relic as male
WDYT?
Replies
I like River! I like it for either sex! It's one of those few names that I like about the same for either sex. I have noticed we're not the only ones who like it ... it's rising in popularity for both sexes. But not so meteorically that it won't stay around for some time IMO. Cool.
Rivers is too surnamey for my taste, and I do tend to think of Joan Rivers, and that's not positive.
Riviera is too associated with the French Riviera ... seems like it's trying to seem posh, more like Armani than like Vienna. If not for the destination it'd be interesting, but I don't think it works.
Relic makes me think of the brand name, and generally seems like it's not a suitable concept for a name.
Rivers is too surnamey for my taste, and I do tend to think of Joan Rivers, and that's not positive.
Riviera is too associated with the French Riviera ... seems like it's trying to seem posh, more like Armani than like Vienna. If not for the destination it'd be interesting, but I don't think it works.
Relic makes me think of the brand name, and generally seems like it's not a suitable concept for a name.
River is not bad, as far as noun names go. I'm not generally a fan of word names, but nature-y ones are by far the best of the bunch. And River could be quite cute on a girl.
Rivers - I hear plural-of-river before I hear surname. So it just sort of sounds silly.
Riviera - frilly and trying-to-be-hoity-toity sounding :) I could see it being used, but I feel like I might assume the parents were low-class and trying too hard.
Relic - hm. Weird. Noteworthy. Again, not a fan of word names and this one doesn't have the nature aspect to save it. Plus it's kind of religious. Is that the angle you'd be going for? I don't know, I don't think I could appreciate this one.
Rivers - I hear plural-of-river before I hear surname. So it just sort of sounds silly.
Riviera - frilly and trying-to-be-hoity-toity sounding :) I could see it being used, but I feel like I might assume the parents were low-class and trying too hard.
Relic - hm. Weird. Noteworthy. Again, not a fan of word names and this one doesn't have the nature aspect to save it. Plus it's kind of religious. Is that the angle you'd be going for? I don't know, I don't think I could appreciate this one.
River- I know one and of another male River. It's not a name I like.
Rivers- reminds me of Joan Rivers. She has an abrasive comedy style that often hits below the belt, so it's not a good association to me.
Riviera- reminds me of the Riviera, a beach where the rich like to go. Maybe I see it as rich since you have to travel to France to get there. I'm not a fan.
Relic- again, I don't like this for a name.
Rivers- reminds me of Joan Rivers. She has an abrasive comedy style that often hits below the belt, so it's not a good association to me.
Riviera- reminds me of the Riviera, a beach where the rich like to go. Maybe I see it as rich since you have to travel to France to get there. I'm not a fan.
Relic- again, I don't like this for a name.
River is nms but it's okay, nice enough sound and concept. I prefer the idea of naming after actual local rivers, it's a bit more interesting.
Rivers = Cuomo. Or Joan.
Riviera would make a fun character name, but seems too OTT for me
Relic = pretty much what Rox said.
Rivers = Cuomo. Or Joan.
Riviera would make a fun character name, but seems too OTT for me
Relic = pretty much what Rox said.
River: Too bland for me. I don't get a strong image, just a green, peaceful river. I know that's what some people like about it, but it bores me.
Rivers: Sounds silly.
Riviera: Ditto. Maybe as a middle name.
Relic: VERY silly. Smacks of 'trying too hard'. Sorry.
Rivers: Sounds silly.
Riviera: Ditto. Maybe as a middle name.
Relic: VERY silly. Smacks of 'trying too hard'. Sorry.
River is growing on me since I met a cute baby called River Zoe Peace. It's still a bit too trendy and hippy for me.
Rivers is much the same but sounds more like a surname which makes me like it less.
Riviera sounds like a holiday destination, not a name. I dislike it
Relic sounds like something dusty and ancient, like an archaeological relic. I don't really think it's useable.
Rivers is much the same but sounds more like a surname which makes me like it less.
Riviera sounds like a holiday destination, not a name. I dislike it
Relic sounds like something dusty and ancient, like an archaeological relic. I don't really think it's useable.
River: Tryndee and cheezy.
Rivers: The s makes it tryndee, cheezy and also ridiculous.
Riviera: Laughable.
Relic: A relic is something old, from the past, obsolete. Pay phones are relics.
Rivers: The s makes it tryndee, cheezy and also ridiculous.
Riviera: Laughable.
Relic: A relic is something old, from the past, obsolete. Pay phones are relics.
That's a slang usage for relic.
I've basically just stopped reading your responses on names like this because I already know what to expect.
I've basically just stopped reading your responses on names like this because I already know what to expect.
slang?
If it is slang, it's pretty widespread slang, not specialized or obscure.
And you must have read that response since you felt the need to respond and tell me you had stopped reading them because you knew what to expect, like you thought that was going to hurt my feelings or prick my conscience or something.
If it is slang, it's pretty widespread slang, not specialized or obscure.
And you must have read that response since you felt the need to respond and tell me you had stopped reading them because you knew what to expect, like you thought that was going to hurt my feelings or prick my conscience or something.
A relic is an object of religious importance. So yes, calling a payphone a relic is using it as a slang term.
Listen, I wasn't trying to hurt your feeling or "prick your conscience," I only meant that when I see that you've responded to an "out there" or "tryndee" sort of name, I already know that you're going to hate it and that your response will likely reveal such via some snide comments. That's fine, really it is. Your opinions aren't wrong and by god they are definitely consistent. I can respect that. It's just that after a while I don't find them particularly helpful because I just keep hearing the same things over and over again. Normally I'm like "ooo hey a new comment!" then I see that it's from RoxStar and I'm more like "sigh, ok, what's she gonna say about this one" I really meant no harm, just wanted you to know
Listen, I wasn't trying to hurt your feeling or "prick your conscience," I only meant that when I see that you've responded to an "out there" or "tryndee" sort of name, I already know that you're going to hate it and that your response will likely reveal such via some snide comments. That's fine, really it is. Your opinions aren't wrong and by god they are definitely consistent. I can respect that. It's just that after a while I don't find them particularly helpful because I just keep hearing the same things over and over again. Normally I'm like "ooo hey a new comment!" then I see that it's from RoxStar and I'm more like "sigh, ok, what's she gonna say about this one" I really meant no harm, just wanted you to know
I really meant no harm, just wanted you to know
Why did you want her to know that...
Why did you want her to know that...
dictionary def
relic :
noun 1 (usually relics) a fragment or part of an object left after the rest has decayed • unearthed relics from the stone-age village. 2 an object valued as a memorial or souvenir of the past. 3 something left from a past time, especially a custom, belief, practice, etc • a relic of medieval Britain. 4 RC Church, Orthodox Church part of the body of a saint or martyr, or of some object connected with them, preserved as an object of veneration. 5 colloq a an old person; b something that is old or old-fashioned. 6 (relics) archaic the remains of a dead person; a corpse. 7 biol a relict species.
ETYMOLOGY: 13c: from Latin reliquiae remains.
relic :
noun 1 (usually relics) a fragment or part of an object left after the rest has decayed • unearthed relics from the stone-age village. 2 an object valued as a memorial or souvenir of the past. 3 something left from a past time, especially a custom, belief, practice, etc • a relic of medieval Britain. 4 RC Church, Orthodox Church part of the body of a saint or martyr, or of some object connected with them, preserved as an object of veneration. 5 colloq a an old person; b something that is old or old-fashioned. 6 (relics) archaic the remains of a dead person; a corpse. 7 biol a relict species.
ETYMOLOGY: 13c: from Latin reliquiae remains.
Jesus H. Christ guys. I am capable of looking things up on my own (or hey, maybe even knowing what I'm talking about in the first place). What definition are you wanting me to look at here? The one way down at #5 that reeks of "informal"?
Well, you went to correct someone's language, and you were wrong. ??
She defined relic in the most common, literal sense (an object left over from the past). The word comes from Latin for "remains" and has been used to mean "something left over from the past" for centuries. I trust that you really can look it up yourself and I'll spare you the linking ... but if you're really interested in correct vocabulary, you probably should look it up and think about it.
Of course you're hardly the first person to ever have acquired a slightly off-target idea of what a word means and been convinced of it. I thought apprehend meant "to worry about" for a long time. The police apprehended the suspect ... I thought that was incorrect usage and only by the grace of god did I never speak up to correct anyone, before I looked it up myself. Especially I'm glad that I didn't go to correct someone and then make a general dig at them in the same breath. ;-)
She defined relic in the most common, literal sense (an object left over from the past). The word comes from Latin for "remains" and has been used to mean "something left over from the past" for centuries. I trust that you really can look it up yourself and I'll spare you the linking ... but if you're really interested in correct vocabulary, you probably should look it up and think about it.
Of course you're hardly the first person to ever have acquired a slightly off-target idea of what a word means and been convinced of it. I thought apprehend meant "to worry about" for a long time. The police apprehended the suspect ... I thought that was incorrect usage and only by the grace of god did I never speak up to correct anyone, before I looked it up myself. Especially I'm glad that I didn't go to correct someone and then make a general dig at them in the same breath. ;-)
This message was edited 8/1/2013, 9:38 PM
I DID look it up after everyone directed me to do so and I can admit that the term is more widely used than I originally thought, but many of the definitions also note that relics are objects of the past especially with historical interest, importance, or sentiment. That's the definition I'm familiar with so at that moment I didn't feel like a payphone was an accurate example, so I used the term slang... which I then retracted my use of.
I guess it came off as a dig but I really didn't mean it that way. I said I respect Rox for how reliable her dislike of a particular type of name is, but didn't find it particularly useful to continually read about when referring to said group of names. More like a "hey, I know you're style and I already know which names you're gonna hate, so you don't really need/have to tell me every time" Maybe I should've included a winky face ;) ;)
I guess it came off as a dig but I really didn't mean it that way. I said I respect Rox for how reliable her dislike of a particular type of name is, but didn't find it particularly useful to continually read about when referring to said group of names. More like a "hey, I know you're style and I already know which names you're gonna hate, so you don't really need/have to tell me every time" Maybe I should've included a winky face ;) ;)
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*frantically pulls seat belt on a she notices the flashing lights in her rear view*
"Aw shit, not the grammar police!"
If that's the only thing you had a problem with in this post I guess I should be proud
"Aw shit, not the grammar police!"
If that's the only thing you had a problem with in this post I guess I should be proud
Cmonnnnn
She probably replies to posts because she likes to. It's not always about the OP!
That's fine! I never said she couldn't or shouldn't reply if she wanted to! I generally think she has useful opinions.... I've just read "ridiculous" as a reply on enough similar names that, for THOSE names I don't find the comments all that productive. I only mentioned it because I myself would like to know if I were wasting my time on someone/something that wasn't giving the time back. Obviously no one read it as the playful banter I intended it to be...
this board does a really great job of making me feel like a misunderstood mean girl :( :( I apologize if that's how I come off because it's never my intention. Apparently I'm not very good at communicating via the interwebs
this board does a really great job of making me feel like a misunderstood mean girl :( :( I apologize if that's how I come off because it's never my intention. Apparently I'm not very good at communicating via the interwebs
Hah. Well, I find it's better if you put it in the original post. like "haters need not apply" or something. rather than a personal response
Haters gon hate... that's cool :) No, really I welcome negative comments as well, and frankly have seen some pretty hilariously insightful comments from Rox. I just thought she, of all people, could take a little heat for being less creative in these recurring remarks. Didn't go over so well I guess. Live and learn
ah sorry. Auto-nerd-pilot. No offence meant.
relic is an object of religious importance...
And so is icon.
Icon is also a computer graphic thingy.
Using icon to refer to say, the little envelope to click on to get your PM's on this site is not slang.
Neither is my use of the word relic.
And so is icon.
Icon is also a computer graphic thingy.
Using icon to refer to say, the little envelope to click on to get your PM's on this site is not slang.
Neither is my use of the word relic.
Maybe the term "slang" is too exclusive but I'd consider both words, used in the more modern sense, to be informal evolutions of their use in the formal/original sense.
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=relic&allowed_in_frame=0
Yes, if you want to be pedantic, you could say we should only use it for its 13th century meaning, and regard the 14th century meaning as a gross misuse of the term...
Yes, if you want to be pedantic, you could say we should only use it for its 13th century meaning, and regard the 14th century meaning as a gross misuse of the term...
Oh hey, thanks for your comments on the NAMES I posted about ;) Now you can head on over to my response to mirfak and see that I've already addressed your concerns. Swell day
Rox's use of the word relic is not slang. Look it up in the dictionary if you don't believe me.