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Help[Opinions] Sabrina or Serena?
Which do you prefer Sabrina or Serena and why?
Any strong associations or personalities that you get from either?
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Favorite Names:
Marguerite, Vivian, Dorothea, Artemis, Hazel, Aurora, Fiona, Clara, Leona, Luna, Maeve, Iris, Frida, April, Cascadia, Vanessa, Sabrina, Citrina
Brendan, Kieran, Rowan, Tristan, Arthur, Malcolm, Julian, Adrian, Robin, Cedric, Cedar, Connor, Oliver, Gavin, Magnus, Xavier, Gryphon
Any strong associations or personalities that you get from either?
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Favorite Names:
Marguerite, Vivian, Dorothea, Artemis, Hazel, Aurora, Fiona, Clara, Leona, Luna, Maeve, Iris, Frida, April, Cascadia, Vanessa, Sabrina, Citrina
Brendan, Kieran, Rowan, Tristan, Arthur, Malcolm, Julian, Adrian, Robin, Cedric, Cedar, Connor, Oliver, Gavin, Magnus, Xavier, Gryphon
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Sabrina.
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Sabrina.
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I like both names, but I very slightly prefer Sabrina because the 'b' makes it sound less slippery smooth.
Name Associations:
Sabrina- Sabrina, the teenage witch, and the character played by Audrey Hepburn in the old movie "Sabrina" are my first thoughts. There may also be a myth about a Sabrina who inhabits a river that reflects her moods. She rides in a chariot pulled by dolphins and may be a sea nymph.
Serena- I associate Serena with the mythological Sirens for some reason, so a mermaid comes to mind. There is also a Georgette Heyer novel with a character named Serena, who is strong willed, redheaded beauty. And there is the athlete Serena Williams.
Name Associations:
Sabrina- Sabrina, the teenage witch, and the character played by Audrey Hepburn in the old movie "Sabrina" are my first thoughts. There may also be a myth about a Sabrina who inhabits a river that reflects her moods. She rides in a chariot pulled by dolphins and may be a sea nymph.
Serena- I associate Serena with the mythological Sirens for some reason, so a mermaid comes to mind. There is also a Georgette Heyer novel with a character named Serena, who is strong willed, redheaded beauty. And there is the athlete Serena Williams.
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I like Sabrina. I am sad that it seems to have a bit of a tacky 90s image. Selena is nice too but also feels 90s dated. Serena feels more timeless, but I think it was really common in Italy in the 80s and 90s because I know many Italian women in their 30s and 20s named this.
Sabrina as I said feels a bit tacky to me. I can't even say why. I actually like it a lot, I just feel like it got a tacky image at some point. Maybe because it is a bit frilly? I don't know. I love it because it gives me a witchy association, kind of like Tabitha. There is something magical about it and I like that.
Serena makes me think of the Gossip Girl books I read ages ago. It is a bit bland to me.
I would suggest Selena to you, which has a similarly mysterious and magical image as Sabrina to me. I always kind of want to group Selena and Sabrina. Serena belongs in there too but it feels different from the others. Then I also group Sabrina with Tabitha and Samantha a lot in my head, they just seem to fit.
Sabrina as I said feels a bit tacky to me. I can't even say why. I actually like it a lot, I just feel like it got a tacky image at some point. Maybe because it is a bit frilly? I don't know. I love it because it gives me a witchy association, kind of like Tabitha. There is something magical about it and I like that.
Serena makes me think of the Gossip Girl books I read ages ago. It is a bit bland to me.
I would suggest Selena to you, which has a similarly mysterious and magical image as Sabrina to me. I always kind of want to group Selena and Sabrina. Serena belongs in there too but it feels different from the others. Then I also group Sabrina with Tabitha and Samantha a lot in my head, they just seem to fit.
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Sabrina Fair
"Sabrina fair,
Listen where thou art sitting
Under the glassy, cool, translucent wave,
In twisted braids of lilies knitting
The loose train of thy amber-dropping hair;
Listen for dear honour's sake,
Goddess of the silver lake,
Listen and save."
-- John Milton, Comus (1634)
I used to go back and forth between these two for years, but have since decided firmly on Sabrina. I won't deny that a huge influence on the decision is the play "Sabrina Fair" and the movies adapted from it. (I actually think of that association long before "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" comes to mind.)
Serena is still beautiful, don't get me wrong, but of the two I choose Sabrina. A stock combo I had for a long time was Sabrina Vivian...
"Sabrina fair,
Listen where thou art sitting
Under the glassy, cool, translucent wave,
In twisted braids of lilies knitting
The loose train of thy amber-dropping hair;
Listen for dear honour's sake,
Goddess of the silver lake,
Listen and save."
-- John Milton, Comus (1634)
I used to go back and forth between these two for years, but have since decided firmly on Sabrina. I won't deny that a huge influence on the decision is the play "Sabrina Fair" and the movies adapted from it. (I actually think of that association long before "Sabrina the Teenage Witch" comes to mind.)
Serena is still beautiful, don't get me wrong, but of the two I choose Sabrina. A stock combo I had for a long time was Sabrina Vivian...
This message was edited 4/7/2017, 10:52 AM
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It's funny because to me Sabrina feels like a brunette and Serena feels like a blonde.
Probably because the first Sabrina to me was Audrey Hepburn and the first Serena was from watching dubbed Sailor Moon every morning before school. Also Melissa Joan Hart has always been more Clarissa to me than Sabrina.
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Probably because the first Sabrina to me was Audrey Hepburn and the first Serena was from watching dubbed Sailor Moon every morning before school. Also Melissa Joan Hart has always been more Clarissa to me than Sabrina.
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Sailor Moon!
Yes, that's my first association with Serena, too! And then I think of Serena from "Gossip Girl." Both are blond - Serena has always been a "blond" name for me, too.
Yes, that's my first association with Serena, too! And then I think of Serena from "Gossip Girl." Both are blond - Serena has always been a "blond" name for me, too.
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I really like both and as much as I'd like to say I prefer Serena because it seems more fresh in my mind and also, because it's a family name on my dh's side, when it comes down to it, Sabrina feels more right to me. I don't think you can you wrong with either.
I don't get a certain personality vibe with either. I just find both names to be feminine and elegant without sacrificing strength or capability. With Sabrina, it does remind me of the Audrey Hepburn character and that's not a bad association at all.
I don't get a certain personality vibe with either. I just find both names to be feminine and elegant without sacrificing strength or capability. With Sabrina, it does remind me of the Audrey Hepburn character and that's not a bad association at all.
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Oh my goodness your profile photo is too cute!
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Hi !!!
Sabrina means "fruit of cactus".
It is a perfect meaning for it.
This is because it my mother's name.
And she is touchy, impatient, strong and stubborn.
But she sometimes is very sweet.
Serena instead is completely different.
It is poetic, calm, sweet and celestial.
I can see an angelic person, romantic and introverted.
That kind of person that helps everyone but with little things with patience and altruism without being demonstrative.
I love Serena very much and Sabrina is obviously honouring.
Sabrina means "fruit of cactus".
It is a perfect meaning for it.
This is because it my mother's name.
And she is touchy, impatient, strong and stubborn.
But she sometimes is very sweet.
Serena instead is completely different.
It is poetic, calm, sweet and celestial.
I can see an angelic person, romantic and introverted.
That kind of person that helps everyone but with little things with patience and altruism without being demonstrative.
I love Serena very much and Sabrina is obviously honouring.
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Hi Felie
Where did you find that meaning for Sabrina? It's interesting
Where did you find that meaning for Sabrina? It's interesting
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Hi !!!
I've knoen this meaning since I was a child (I started being interested in names already at elementary school) .
Italian books and websites stress this origin (that is official because names can have more than one origin).
Infact when firstly I checked in into BTN I was very surprised that this origin was not in the description and instead it was said that river Severn was its root.
I've never heard about the link between Severn and Sabrina so I still think that its origin is Semitic.
Semitic because there is a third origin: the Arabic root S B R which is the root of 'patience, patient'. Infact also in Hebrew the cactus fruit is called sabre because it can grows in a hard environment (the desert) and thus is the reason because it has the same root of patience.
I've knoen this meaning since I was a child (I started being interested in names already at elementary school) .
Italian books and websites stress this origin (that is official because names can have more than one origin).
Infact when firstly I checked in into BTN I was very surprised that this origin was not in the description and instead it was said that river Severn was its root.
I've never heard about the link between Severn and Sabrina so I still think that its origin is Semitic.
Semitic because there is a third origin: the Arabic root S B R which is the root of 'patience, patient'. Infact also in Hebrew the cactus fruit is called sabre because it can grows in a hard environment (the desert) and thus is the reason because it has the same root of patience.
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I prefer Sabrina, for its sound and the association with a place close to my heart
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Sabrina as the Latin name of the river Severn is very lovely, as is the river for most of its length. I associate it with 16th or 17th century theatre, not sure why: a Ben Jonson masque perhaps? Too idle to find out. But that's also good.
Serena is a Williams sister and undoubtedly a remarkable athlete, but watching her is boring and she has an unfortunate body shape. I was at school with a very different Serena who was quite good at sport (not tennis) and generally cheerful and pleasant. So it gives me mixed messages. I'd rather meet a Sabrina than a Serena, and I wouldn't use either.
Serena is a Williams sister and undoubtedly a remarkable athlete, but watching her is boring and she has an unfortunate body shape. I was at school with a very different Serena who was quite good at sport (not tennis) and generally cheerful and pleasant. So it gives me mixed messages. I'd rather meet a Sabrina than a Serena, and I wouldn't use either.
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I thought Sabrina Williams had a very nice shape. She's very muscular but still has curves.
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You're right about the masque.
You're right that Sabrina is from a 17th century masque - except it's not Jonson, but Milton (Comus, 1634).
You're right that Sabrina is from a 17th century masque - except it's not Jonson, but Milton (Comus, 1634).
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why do you think Serena Williams has an unfortunate body shape? She is possibly the finest athlete in the world; certainly the greatest tennis player of our time. A body that can do that is surely a body in perfect shape?
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Oh, her body certainly does what it needs to do, that's for sure. I'm always amazed that she's been so injury-free: people like Raphael Nadal - not a lightweight - often experience joint problems, especially knees, hips and feet. And Serena is a large lady: compare her to her sister Venus. And, imagine yourself a dress designer. Would you rather make clothes for Venus or Serena? Whose body would be easier to dress?
I'm not happy with the idea of perfection anyway. It's got a lot to do with fashion. It's been said, don't recall where, that in today's world Marilyn Monroe would be considered in need of weight reduction and lots of time in the gym, and she certainly didn't have a body you'd expect to see on a modern actor/model/celeb. And yet ...
I'm not happy with the idea of perfection anyway. It's got a lot to do with fashion. It's been said, don't recall where, that in today's world Marilyn Monroe would be considered in need of weight reduction and lots of time in the gym, and she certainly didn't have a body you'd expect to see on a modern actor/model/celeb. And yet ...
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Marilyn Monroe ...
I think her body has been overhyped in more ways than one.
At autopsy she was five-foot-five and weighed 117. That is quite slender, much slimmer than the current average today. She had recently dropped twenty-five pounds, so maybe her top weight was right around 145. That's still below today's average but most would consider it reasonably slender.
In her day, people didn't exercise. I mean, they didn't go to the gym unless they were athletes, they didn't jog or run for fun. That doesn't mean they necessarily led healthier lifestyles; Marilyn drank and popped pills.
I hear all the time that she was a size 14 or 16, and this simply cannot be true. My mother wears a size 12 and she is heavier than Marilyn was at her (presumed) heaviest. I've also heard how amazingly small her dresses are when they were put up on display in a museum and that the woman in charge claimed they were too small to go on a size 2 manneuqin.
I don't think this can be true either. If I was guessing I'd say Marilyn might have worn a size 8. But even that is kind of meaningless when you remember that 1. Clothing sizes are not standardized at all. (I'm even beginning to think shoe sizes might not be either.) and 2. Celebrities have their clothes custom-made, and they can call it whatever size they want.
Hell, five-foot-five and 145 pounds isn't even what most people think of when they think of that popular but essentially meaningless term "plus sized."
I think her body has been overhyped in more ways than one.
At autopsy she was five-foot-five and weighed 117. That is quite slender, much slimmer than the current average today. She had recently dropped twenty-five pounds, so maybe her top weight was right around 145. That's still below today's average but most would consider it reasonably slender.
In her day, people didn't exercise. I mean, they didn't go to the gym unless they were athletes, they didn't jog or run for fun. That doesn't mean they necessarily led healthier lifestyles; Marilyn drank and popped pills.
I hear all the time that she was a size 14 or 16, and this simply cannot be true. My mother wears a size 12 and she is heavier than Marilyn was at her (presumed) heaviest. I've also heard how amazingly small her dresses are when they were put up on display in a museum and that the woman in charge claimed they were too small to go on a size 2 manneuqin.
I don't think this can be true either. If I was guessing I'd say Marilyn might have worn a size 8. But even that is kind of meaningless when you remember that 1. Clothing sizes are not standardized at all. (I'm even beginning to think shoe sizes might not be either.) and 2. Celebrities have their clothes custom-made, and they can call it whatever size they want.
Hell, five-foot-five and 145 pounds isn't even what most people think of when they think of that popular but essentially meaningless term "plus sized."
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I agree that people make up weird stories about Marilyn's body, but she did exercise, at least at the start of career:
http://www.allday.com/marilyn-monroe-did-some-crazy-things-to-stay-in-shape-2180808441.html
http://www.allday.com/marilyn-monroe-did-some-crazy-things-to-stay-in-shape-2180808441.html
This message was edited 4/8/2017, 10:47 AM
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eh...I think a body that can do what hers does is magnificent. I just see strength and power. Venus has a completely different build, even though they're sisters it's like comparing apples to oranges. I agree that her longer limbs appeal more to the current ideal but tbh I wouldn't call either of their bodies 'unfortunate'.
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I agree completely. Her body is powerful and awesome, capable of so much more than just satisfying society's feminine ideals. I can think if a lot of words to describe her body, and unfortunate isn't one of them.
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I Googled some pictures of her. My Lord she is muscular. Most female athletes don't get that muscular, and I don't think the majority of women would want to be that muscular. Her arms look like a man's. I'd like to be fit but I wouldn't want my arms to look like that. I think that must be what Anneza meant.
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