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Help[Opinions] Re: Insults people should stop using for names
in reply to a message by ShioTanbo1
I'm afraid all us sexist racists didn't invite your opinions in the first place. Shows how tactless, thoughtless and rude we must be. Are you sure that you aren't using your holier-than-thou stance to create awareness of names you perceive as horrible, peculiar or sexual? Or do you have difficulty in telling the Opinions board and the Comments section apart?
As for Hitler: I know of a man named Hitler who was born in what was then Southern Rhodesia in the early 1950s. My guess is that his parents were opposed to British colonialism, wanted independence for their country, and gave their son the name of the most prominent opponent of Britain that they could think of. Not a lack of education, therefore; just a matter of interpretation. Not something I would do, but I wouldn't outlaw the use of names I don't happen to like either.
As for Hitler: I know of a man named Hitler who was born in what was then Southern Rhodesia in the early 1950s. My guess is that his parents were opposed to British colonialism, wanted independence for their country, and gave their son the name of the most prominent opponent of Britain that they could think of. Not a lack of education, therefore; just a matter of interpretation. Not something I would do, but I wouldn't outlaw the use of names I don't happen to like either.
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Trevor Noah, comedian, had a friend named Hitler. He spoke about an incident in his autobiography. In South Africa, apartheid was meant to inspire hate in the Africans torwards each other, not the government. So to keep them pacified, I believe, Hitler was not discussed broadly in school.
That's what I meant. People in Africa are advancing and reading more, and becoming politicians. I'm just saying, that people are only taught what others want them to know.
This can cause unfortunate situations, like how Trevor's friend Hitler was at a social gathering with South African Jews. And when Trevor's friends cheered "Go Hitler!" many times, it came off as disrespectful. The Jews said so, hut Trevor didn't know what they did so wrong.
Naturally, they got kicked out of the building.
The history must be very different regarding Rhodesia (named by its people, Zimbabwe). I appreciate your reply.
Yes, some people are grateful for their freedom. South Africans actually respected Hitler for convincing white folks to team up with blacks. That's the only good thing that came out of it. Now people hate Germans, as many people hate Arabs after 9/11.
I didn't mean to make it a history lesson, but I like exchanging facts with others. And I want to know what you think.
:) From ShioTanbo1
That's what I meant. People in Africa are advancing and reading more, and becoming politicians. I'm just saying, that people are only taught what others want them to know.
This can cause unfortunate situations, like how Trevor's friend Hitler was at a social gathering with South African Jews. And when Trevor's friends cheered "Go Hitler!" many times, it came off as disrespectful. The Jews said so, hut Trevor didn't know what they did so wrong.
Naturally, they got kicked out of the building.
The history must be very different regarding Rhodesia (named by its people, Zimbabwe). I appreciate your reply.
Yes, some people are grateful for their freedom. South Africans actually respected Hitler for convincing white folks to team up with blacks. That's the only good thing that came out of it. Now people hate Germans, as many people hate Arabs after 9/11.
I didn't mean to make it a history lesson, but I like exchanging facts with others. And I want to know what you think.
:) From ShioTanbo1
This message was edited 9/13/2021, 2:46 PM
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Under the apartheid government, the school history syllabus ended in the late 19th century. It was compiled with the white population in mind, and therefore ended before the two Anglo-Boer Wars took place - these would, it was thought, still have political repercussions and should therefore not be discussed at school. Of course, there wasn't a separate syllabus for each population group! But clearly Trevor Noah and his friends, and thousands like them, could have found out about Nazism if they'd gone to a public library or just asked their parents ... political parties like the African National Congress and the Liberal Party, both banned under apartheid, though the ANC at least continued as an underground movement, drew the obvious parallels beween apartheid and Nazism. BJ Vorster, who became Prime Minister after the assassination of Dr Verwoerd in 1966, had been detained during the Second World War for supporting Germany and committing acts of sabotage against the then government, which supported the Allies. So, the facts were there to be seen. People do not only know what they learn at school, or they need not confine themselves to that.
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