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Help[Opinions] Re: Charlotte
in reply to a message by insane romantic
Hmm. John and hot have the same vowel sound in them to me. Log is something totally different. Ahh, accent differences. Much confusion. I'm thinking maybe in the UK it has more of an "oh" sound to it, though, if I try to think about having heard it said in an English accent before.
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To me, John, hot, log, and frog all have the same vowel sound, but dog does not - it's pronounced more like "dawg." To some people, "aw," "ah" and the short "o" sound are the same. I've seen "phonetically" spelled names like Ariauna or pronunciations written out like ta-tee-AW-nah for Tatiana (where I'd say tah-tee-AH-nah). Looking at Australian BAs, it seems they spell that same sound "ar," which always throws me for a loop because I pronounce the "r"!
When my cousins moved to western Massachusetts from Rhode Island where I live, I noticed a change in how they pronounce that sound despite the short distance. I say CAW-fee, sawce, and dawg, and they say CAH-fee, sahce, and dahg. Maybe it's just me and I never learned to speak correctly. I remember having a book when I was very young that said dog, frog, and log have the same vowel sound, and I was like "No, they don't!"
When my cousins moved to western Massachusetts from Rhode Island where I live, I noticed a change in how they pronounce that sound despite the short distance. I say CAW-fee, sawce, and dawg, and they say CAH-fee, sahce, and dahg. Maybe it's just me and I never learned to speak correctly. I remember having a book when I was very young that said dog, frog, and log have the same vowel sound, and I was like "No, they don't!"
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That's interesting. I'm not sure where I fall on that spectrum, but the way I say John is closer to JAWN than JAHN. I think I make more of an O shape with my mouth for John than for, say, sauce.
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John, hot, log, frog, and dog all have the same vowel sound to me. We apparently merge a lot of vowels sounds where I live.
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They have the same vowel sound for me. O sounding like "aw" makes no sense at all!
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Yeah
I just had an ah/aw conversation with Serafina Starstrider a little bit ago. In my accent aw and ah are totally not the same thing... hot and log do not rhyme at all. But in some they do! The aw sound seems very western to me, like California accent.
I just had an ah/aw conversation with Serafina Starstrider a little bit ago. In my accent aw and ah are totally not the same thing... hot and log do not rhyme at all. But in some they do! The aw sound seems very western to me, like California accent.
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http://www.forvo.com/word/john/#en
that website has UK and US pronounciations of John. Hope that helps!
that website has UK and US pronounciations of John. Hope that helps!
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I'm with Ismene, it sounds basically the same to me. The first one she just sounds English, but the second sounds completely the same. Also, not sure why I didn't think to check that website in the first place!
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I really don't hear much of a difference between the two.
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