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Help[Opinions] Re: Not just for mafiosa: how much thought do any of you
in reply to a message by mafiosa
not to be snarky, but what if she didn't like any feminine version of Charles? (seriously how can one not like Charlotte!, lol). I mean why does it have to be a girl version just because it's a girl? What if they don't like anything, but Charles? Just food for thought.
ETA: Hope you day went well, mine is wonderful I got an A in one of my classes :o). Just to clarify I am not a fan of Charles on a girl, it's more GP for me. I can see all your points too. I guess everyone's just really different :o).
ETA: Hope you day went well, mine is wonderful I got an A in one of my classes :o). Just to clarify I am not a fan of Charles on a girl, it's more GP for me. I can see all your points too. I guess everyone's just really different :o).
This message was edited 12/10/2008, 6:48 PM
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Well, I can only talk from my point of view. If I didn't like any feminine version of a name to give my daughter, I would use a whole different name altogether. Yes, I know they wanted to have a relation to her father, and yes, there are worse names out there than Livia Charles, and yes, it's more understandable to call your daughter Charles for a beloved person than name her Jaymes because "male names make girls strong" and it's oh so cute, but that trend is just so, so annoying and tiresome (holy long sentence). One of my all-time favourite boys names is rendered pretty much unusable because it's been taken by the girls. I hate this trend with a passion and it has nothing to with an "open mind" or intolerance or wanting to stick to names like Ava, Mary and Elizabeth.
I, for one, am glad that where I live, stuff like male names on girls and tryndee made-up names are forbidden (and we still get our share of complete oddballs: Fanta, Emily-Extra, Galaxina, Pumuckel, Windsbraut ("bride of the wind") anyone?!).
I don't like Charlotte either, by the way, at least not the English pronunciation.
Congratulations on your A. :D And sorry for weird incomprehensive rambling. I'm horribly tired and it's the middle of the night and I need to go to bed.
I, for one, am glad that where I live, stuff like male names on girls and tryndee made-up names are forbidden (and we still get our share of complete oddballs: Fanta, Emily-Extra, Galaxina, Pumuckel, Windsbraut ("bride of the wind") anyone?!).
I don't like Charlotte either, by the way, at least not the English pronunciation.
Congratulations on your A. :D And sorry for weird incomprehensive rambling. I'm horribly tired and it's the middle of the night and I need to go to bed.
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Though I take it you strongly disapprove, I think Bride of the Wind, in English, is quite lovely. Windbride, maybe, as well. Very evocative, particularly because I am the daughter of a pilot. I have long advocated for the use of phrase names in one's native tongue and could easily see it as a mn. Windsbraut, because it is not in my native tongue, has the unfortunate effect of reminding me of sausages (brats), though I recognize that braut and brat have nothing whatsoever to do with one another, including pronunciation. My husband, who is American, so happens to have grown up in Germany, and he thinks Windsbraut itself holds promise. But he is like me, which is why (and is partly a result of the fact that) we married.
I did not wake up this morning intending to cause such a stir, mafiosa, nor did I think to myself, I'm going to go poke that mafiosa person with a hot stick. This all got rather more out of hand than I expected.
I would like to say, and I hope you will believe and understand, I was not calling you personally a Nazi. I didn't say just Nazi, I must point out, but name Nazi (though that distinction may be uniquely insignificant to you), though, yes, I did include you in that category. My choice of words was unfortunate but coincidental. I was not thinking of you being in Germany when I said that; though if I had, I can't honestly say I would have used another word, because, again, I wasn't trying to single you out. I meant it when I headed my post, "not just for mafiosa."
I meant the term broadly to apply to all those namenerds who are consistently intolerant of others' odd or unorthodox choices, no matter what rationale is demonstrated, as though there could never possibly be any reason good enough to break the sacred rule of xyz whatever today's rule is (boy names on girls, today). With my post I just wanted everyone to stop and think for a moment about why people make unorthodox choices. Was that really so terrible, to defend that little girl's name, and her thoughtful mother's choice? I don't think so.
I did not wake up this morning intending to cause such a stir, mafiosa, nor did I think to myself, I'm going to go poke that mafiosa person with a hot stick. This all got rather more out of hand than I expected.
I would like to say, and I hope you will believe and understand, I was not calling you personally a Nazi. I didn't say just Nazi, I must point out, but name Nazi (though that distinction may be uniquely insignificant to you), though, yes, I did include you in that category. My choice of words was unfortunate but coincidental. I was not thinking of you being in Germany when I said that; though if I had, I can't honestly say I would have used another word, because, again, I wasn't trying to single you out. I meant it when I headed my post, "not just for mafiosa."
I meant the term broadly to apply to all those namenerds who are consistently intolerant of others' odd or unorthodox choices, no matter what rationale is demonstrated, as though there could never possibly be any reason good enough to break the sacred rule of xyz whatever today's rule is (boy names on girls, today). With my post I just wanted everyone to stop and think for a moment about why people make unorthodox choices. Was that really so terrible, to defend that little girl's name, and her thoughtful mother's choice? I don't think so.
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Well, yes, the meaning is nice, but Windsbraut just a bizarre name, since we usually never use word names, much less so complex ones. Which is probably why I don't like those in general. River is a horrible GP of mine, probably because English isn't my first language. When I imagine calling someone "Fluss" ("river" in German), though, I see that it's gonna stay a GP forever. There's an actress called "Wolke" ("cloud") here (I have no idea how she got her name) and it's just really strange everytime someone announces her. It's just a thing to me, not a person.
I still don't like the word "name Nazi", but I do realise you didn't mean it like that. I just don't like "Nazi" being applied to something so insignificant. Maybe it really is my being German and being called a Nazi pretty often for it, though. I can't see it from another perspective.
I also don't see myself as intolerant. At all. Though if you consider not liking and disapproving of something as being intolerant of it, then I guess I am. It's not like I have much of a choice but tolerate it, do I? I can hardly keep people from using Charles-on-a-girl, Shanee'Quantaeiya, McMaddysynn, etc., etc.
I'm really going to bed now, I don't feel so good (which has nothing to do with you; I'm just really sensitive in the last few months). Good night. :)
I still don't like the word "name Nazi", but I do realise you didn't mean it like that. I just don't like "Nazi" being applied to something so insignificant. Maybe it really is my being German and being called a Nazi pretty often for it, though. I can't see it from another perspective.
I also don't see myself as intolerant. At all. Though if you consider not liking and disapproving of something as being intolerant of it, then I guess I am. It's not like I have much of a choice but tolerate it, do I? I can hardly keep people from using Charles-on-a-girl, Shanee'Quantaeiya, McMaddysynn, etc., etc.
I'm really going to bed now, I don't feel so good (which has nothing to do with you; I'm just really sensitive in the last few months). Good night. :)
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