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Help[Opinions] Re: Kelci (for a boy)
in reply to a message by Chelsea
I think that poor kid is going to get beat up. It's a very feminine spelling.
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Coming from someone who was often teased about her name...
...it didn't phase me in the slightest.
"What do you call a girl with one eye and one leg? AILEEN!"
"Where does she work? IHOP!"
"Wait, like the song? Come on Eileen, oh, I swear (well he means), at this moment, YOU MEAN EVVVVVRYTHINNNGGGGG!"
Yeah I got those like every day. I did in elementary school, middle school, high school, and I still get them in college. I feel bad for someone if the teasing really gets to them, but honestly I never thought about it twice.
...it didn't phase me in the slightest.
"What do you call a girl with one eye and one leg? AILEEN!"
"Where does she work? IHOP!"
"Wait, like the song? Come on Eileen, oh, I swear (well he means), at this moment, YOU MEAN EVVVVVRYTHINNNGGGGG!"
Yeah I got those like every day. I did in elementary school, middle school, high school, and I still get them in college. I feel bad for someone if the teasing really gets to them, but honestly I never thought about it twice.
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I got called "Bony Joanie" by kids at school AND by my own family (nice, huh?). I was also "Joanie Bologna" and my oldest brother loved to chant "Bony Joanie eats rotten bologna while riding her pony".
I occasionally get "Joanie Loves Chachi" jokes, but not as often as you would think. Mostly it's from middle aged professor trying to be funny, but there was one kid in high school that would yell "Joanie Loves Chachi" at least once a day.
Being called "Bony Joanie" bothered me around age 10, when I was all arms and legs but I don't remember it bothering me for long. I sure wasn't the only one. A girl named Kara was called "Carrot" and a girl named Delores was called "Deloser". I think "Deloser" was the worst (it is pretty bad actually), but even that girl was able to blow it off.
I occasionally get "Joanie Loves Chachi" jokes, but not as often as you would think. Mostly it's from middle aged professor trying to be funny, but there was one kid in high school that would yell "Joanie Loves Chachi" at least once a day.
Being called "Bony Joanie" bothered me around age 10, when I was all arms and legs but I don't remember it bothering me for long. I sure wasn't the only one. A girl named Kara was called "Carrot" and a girl named Delores was called "Deloser". I think "Deloser" was the worst (it is pretty bad actually), but even that girl was able to blow it off.
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I now present: The Evolution of Aileen's Family Nicknames
Aileen → Leenie → Tortellini → Tort → Torty → Shorty Torty (in a singsong voice)
Yes. My father still calls me "SHOORRRTTYYYYY TORTY!" I hate it. I hate it so much. I always tell him to stop saying it and yet he never remembers. And alas, I move on.
Aileen → Leenie → Tortellini → Tort → Torty → Shorty Torty (in a singsong voice)
Yes. My father still calls me "SHOORRRTTYYYYY TORTY!" I hate it. I hate it so much. I always tell him to stop saying it and yet he never remembers. And alas, I move on.
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Both your post and Aileen's show it can happen to anyone. Interestingly everyone is more concerned over boys being teased (or beaten up) over having certain names but no one cares when it comes to girl's having boys names. Are we actually worried that our boys are more "sensitive" than our girls over such things?
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It's a sexist thing: it's perfectly fine for a girl to have a boy's name, because masculinity is respected. Feminitity isn't.
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Even more interestingly is that the only incident I have ever heard of where someone was actually beaten for their name was a girl-- named Randi, which is hardly a supermasculine name anyway. It was posted on the Lounge a while ago, and I remembered it when I decided to google "beaten up for name" earlier. Nothing else relevant appears.
And while the articles don't mention anything, I still think there was something else to it than "Yeah she had a boys name so we beat her up."
And while the articles don't mention anything, I still think there was something else to it than "Yeah she had a boys name so we beat her up."
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I think I'm going to beat up the next person who says a kid will get beat up for their name.
how do people honestly believe that this happens?
how do people honestly believe that this happens?
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Try actually being a boy before blowing up. Kelsi would be crucified.
This message was edited 7/27/2011, 1:23 PM
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I notice a lot of people who say that kids are going to get beaten up have really normal names. Weird.
Hey, Chelsea, were you ever crucified because your name is Chelsea?
Hey, Chelsea, were you ever crucified because your name is Chelsea?
This message was edited 7/27/2011, 1:27 PM
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Teased and border line bullied on some occasions, but nothing more than some other kids got. Like you (or someone else) said, these periods came and went and depending on how you reacted encouraged or discouraged it. Other kids with totally normal names got teased/bullied just as much.
I should clarify - when I say bullied I think they were pushing for a reaction. If I didn't give them what they wanted which was to maybe either fight, or submit (both would encourage it) then they would give up. The more you own your name the less it seems to be a problem. The bullies sense and feed off your own insecurities in my opinion.
I should clarify - when I say bullied I think they were pushing for a reaction. If I didn't give them what they wanted which was to maybe either fight, or submit (both would encourage it) then they would give up. The more you own your name the less it seems to be a problem. The bullies sense and feed off your own insecurities in my opinion.
This message was edited 7/27/2011, 1:33 PM
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Ditto
I've said this before, I've known a guy named Lindy for years. I've also met a male Addy and Adley. None of them have been beaten up for having feminine sounding names.
I think some names can have teasing potential, but who hasn't been teased about their name?
I've said this before, I've known a guy named Lindy for years. I've also met a male Addy and Adley. None of them have been beaten up for having feminine sounding names.
I think some names can have teasing potential, but who hasn't been teased about their name?
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Agreed
If you don't get teased about your name, you get teased about something else. It happens, kids need to learn from it and move on.
If you don't get teased about your name, you get teased about something else. It happens, kids need to learn from it and move on.
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I say that because I've been a high school teacher for 15 years and I've seen it happen. Kids are MEAN.
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So you've seen boys with "girls names" getting beaten up SOLELY for having a feminine name? And nothing else? They did NOTHING else except have a female name?
I don't buy it.
Read:
http://www.behindthename.com/bb/baby/4089197
I don't buy it.
Read:
http://www.behindthename.com/bb/baby/4089197
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I've seen boys with girl names get picked on and teased. Yes, solely for having a girl name. The ones that are actually beaten up usually have other social issues. I've even used my name nerdiness to come to the rescue of a few of them....not that there is a big gang of kids surrounding them, but comments being made about them having a girl name.
It's usually from names that used to be solely male and have started being used as feminine names (Morgan, Addison, Kelly, Rene, Dana, etc). Because I'm a name nerd, I've talked to kids about this numerous times. The boys usually tell me that their moms had no idea that their name was starting to be used for girls when they were born and named...
It's usually from names that used to be solely male and have started being used as feminine names (Morgan, Addison, Kelly, Rene, Dana, etc). Because I'm a name nerd, I've talked to kids about this numerous times. The boys usually tell me that their moms had no idea that their name was starting to be used for girls when they were born and named...
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My boyfriend's name is Taylor, and he was born during a time when it was more popular for girls than for boys. As far as I know, he was never teased about it, aside from maybe a bit of good-natured ribbing from some friends. He just wasn't the type of kid who got teased, especially in middle school and high school.
On the other hand, my name is Megan - which was like #10 or #11 the year I was born - and I got teased about it, but I was not very popular and got teased a lot anyway.
I even knew a guy named Carroll in elementary school, and he was really popular and no one dared give him a hard time. I also remember a guy named Kelly running for office in school one year and winning.
A name can give kids ammunition, sure, but so can freckles or glasses or weight or being socially awkward or religion or any number of things.
On the other hand, my name is Megan - which was like #10 or #11 the year I was born - and I got teased about it, but I was not very popular and got teased a lot anyway.
I even knew a guy named Carroll in elementary school, and he was really popular and no one dared give him a hard time. I also remember a guy named Kelly running for office in school one year and winning.
A name can give kids ammunition, sure, but so can freckles or glasses or weight or being socially awkward or religion or any number of things.
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I was a high school student for four years and all the Morgans and Ashleys and whatevers I knew were perfectly fine
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So Kelci isn't being beaten up for his name, but he might get teased. There's a biiig difference to me.
And I still don't think it happens all that frequently, or at least, not with the severity that people seem to imply, where the child is completely miserable and their childhood is ruined.
I'm still sure that the child's attitude is going to play a huge role. Because if I'm a bully, I'm going to pick on Kelci even more if he just gets upset when I call him a girl. If he's like "Haha, yep, whatever bro", I'm probably not going to persist.
And I still don't think it happens all that frequently, or at least, not with the severity that people seem to imply, where the child is completely miserable and their childhood is ruined.
I'm still sure that the child's attitude is going to play a huge role. Because if I'm a bully, I'm going to pick on Kelci even more if he just gets upset when I call him a girl. If he's like "Haha, yep, whatever bro", I'm probably not going to persist.
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Exactly - it's all in the response and attitude that you have. If you wear your name with confidence then I don't think it happens to the same degree.
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Is it really just their name though? Surely there are other factors at play.
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Bullies are bullies, and they use what ammunition they have. So, yeah, there can be other factors at play, but if their name is something that is easily ridiculed, they go there first.
To me, naming a boy Kelci is making them a target. If someone wants to beat me up for my opinion, then I think they are on the wrong board. I'm pretty sure there are rules against that here.
To me, naming a boy Kelci is making them a target. If someone wants to beat me up for my opinion, then I think they are on the wrong board. I'm pretty sure there are rules against that here.
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>If someone wants to beat me up for my opinion, then I think they are on the wrong board. I'm pretty sure there are rules against that here
Who's "beating you up"? If this is what you mean by someone being beaten up then I totally agree with Rachel Shaina - I think she is talking on a whole other level of physical abuse.
Who's "beating you up"? If this is what you mean by someone being beaten up then I totally agree with Rachel Shaina - I think she is talking on a whole other level of physical abuse.
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LOL. I know what you mean. I get fed up seeing that too. And I really do wonder if they really think it or not or whether it's a knee jerk reaction to their own biases.
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