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in reply to a message by Anthroponomastics
Sounds too ethnic for an American baby, but it's okay.
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I think that is ridiculous. I can't believe you said that. I'm so embarrassed for you.
I once read on this site that the name Isaac "sounded too black". I've only known two people in my life named Isaac, one was Mexican and the other is white, and yet this name is "too black"? Although some names are almost exclusively used only in certain cultures (like Alejandro, Alexei, Mohammed, etc) I don't think it's necessary to avoid a name because someone thinks it sounds "ethnic", people should use what they like and we should just be happy that she used real names. And thank goodness she didn't name him Jayden, Aiden, Hayden, Caiden or any of the other over used Aden names.
The world is becoming a smaller place and cultures are being influenced by other cultures, the whole world is a melting pot. It's nice to see that people are being more open minded. You should try to start getting used to that.
A few weeks ago people suggested that I use the name Araceli, which happens to be primarily Latino, I like it a lot. But, oh no! I'm white! It must be "too ethnic" for me to use! While we're at it we should make sure that white Americans stop naming their children Isabella seeing as it's Italian. Is it ok for an American to use a name like Connor? It is Irish after all. Just remember, all names come from somewhere, from some culture, very very few names are from America.
Do you see the ignorance in what you said? I hope so.
I once read on this site that the name Isaac "sounded too black". I've only known two people in my life named Isaac, one was Mexican and the other is white, and yet this name is "too black"? Although some names are almost exclusively used only in certain cultures (like Alejandro, Alexei, Mohammed, etc) I don't think it's necessary to avoid a name because someone thinks it sounds "ethnic", people should use what they like and we should just be happy that she used real names. And thank goodness she didn't name him Jayden, Aiden, Hayden, Caiden or any of the other over used Aden names.
The world is becoming a smaller place and cultures are being influenced by other cultures, the whole world is a melting pot. It's nice to see that people are being more open minded. You should try to start getting used to that.
A few weeks ago people suggested that I use the name Araceli, which happens to be primarily Latino, I like it a lot. But, oh no! I'm white! It must be "too ethnic" for me to use! While we're at it we should make sure that white Americans stop naming their children Isabella seeing as it's Italian. Is it ok for an American to use a name like Connor? It is Irish after all. Just remember, all names come from somewhere, from some culture, very very few names are from America.
Do you see the ignorance in what you said? I hope so.
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Oh, shut up.
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What?
I mean, there are probably more white non-Hispanic boys named Cruz than Hispanic boys named Cruz. Blame Hollywood for making a random Spanish name trendy on non-Spanish people. I mean, non-Hispanic Americans don't name their kids names like Anunciacion, Gualtiero, Nereida, Ximena, or Fulgencio, so what makes Cruz any different?
I mean, there are probably more white non-Hispanic boys named Cruz than Hispanic boys named Cruz. Blame Hollywood for making a random Spanish name trendy on non-Spanish people. I mean, non-Hispanic Americans don't name their kids names like Anunciacion, Gualtiero, Nereida, Ximena, or Fulgencio, so what makes Cruz any different?
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Hispanic-American people are AMERICAN too, is the point.
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I mean, sometimes name popularity is mostly associated with one group. While the names Juan, Jesus, Guillermo, Octavio, Guadalupe, Carmen, and Paloma are all on the top 1000, they are almost exclusively popular with Hispanics.
You can't expect everyone in America to have names that are considered English. For example, an Indian woman named Vijaya, a Turkish man named Mehmet, and a Mexican man named Hipolito may all be American citizens, but their names are still not considered English.
You can't expect everyone in America to have names that are considered English. For example, an Indian woman named Vijaya, a Turkish man named Mehmet, and a Mexican man named Hipolito may all be American citizens, but their names are still not considered English.
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I know. Actually in this post, you're saying what I was trying to explain to you. But in your original post that Billina objected to, you said this hispanic name was bad for an "American," though. Lots of hispanic people are Americans. America has mostly white people with English-speaking backgrounds, but not all. So it seemed like you were excluding hispanics from the multicolored quilt of American culture, as it were.
Anyway, I know what you're saying, and culture-borrowing is a separate issue, but I know tons of little white babies named Cruz. I don't think it's dominated by hispanic people anymore. Probably mostly used by them, but not to the point where I'd assume a Cruz was hispanic. I think it's inspired largely by Tom Cruise bringing the sound into style, and the fact that "Cruz" happens to mean "cross" and therefore has a more palatable meaning than just Cruise itself.
Anyway, I know what you're saying, and culture-borrowing is a separate issue, but I know tons of little white babies named Cruz. I don't think it's dominated by hispanic people anymore. Probably mostly used by them, but not to the point where I'd assume a Cruz was hispanic. I think it's inspired largely by Tom Cruise bringing the sound into style, and the fact that "Cruz" happens to mean "cross" and therefore has a more palatable meaning than just Cruise itself.
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It was "too ethnic for an American baby" that made me react the way I did. It's just a stupid, short-sighted thing to say...what makes an American?
It's pointless to argue over it, though. Nothing ever changes.
It's pointless to argue over it, though. Nothing ever changes.
This message was edited 3/22/2012, 7:50 PM
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