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Help[Facts] Re: Nannerl
in reply to a message by LadyBug
Yes, Nannerl would be a nickname for Anna. Nicknames ending in 'l' are (or were) common in German; as well as Nannerl (which I've seen before, but it may have been the same person!) you get Gretel / Gretl for Margaret, Liesel / Liesl for Elisabeth, and my own step-great-grandmother was Rosa nn Rosel. There aren't many examples in the BtN database but those that are there demonstrate the pattern.
I hope that helps :-)
~Chrisell~
Proudly Australian
www.archaeochrisell.blogspot.com
I hope that helps :-)
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Just adding a little (edited)
That -erl ending is distinctively Austrian or Bavarian. You won't usually find it in Berlin or Hamburg! (Large parts of Austria speak a Bavarian dialect. Bavaria is a region in the Southeast of Germany.)
(I wonder whether the -el/ -l diminutive isn't a Southern German thing too, but I'm not sure. Maybe Satu or Rene know more.)
Nanni is a general German pet form of Anna/Anne and Marianne (though just as rare as Nannerl).
My name book tells me, French has Nannette as a pet form of Anne. Maybe that's how Nanni entered German - but I'm speculating!
(edited for clarity)
That -erl ending is distinctively Austrian or Bavarian. You won't usually find it in Berlin or Hamburg! (Large parts of Austria speak a Bavarian dialect. Bavaria is a region in the Southeast of Germany.)
(I wonder whether the -el/ -l diminutive isn't a Southern German thing too, but I'm not sure. Maybe Satu or Rene know more.)
Nanni is a general German pet form of Anna/Anne and Marianne (though just as rare as Nannerl).
My name book tells me, French has Nannette as a pet form of Anne. Maybe that's how Nanni entered German - but I'm speculating!
(edited for clarity)
This message was edited 1/13/2007, 3:41 PM
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austrians don´t speak a "bavarian" dialect!! there are many different dialects in austria as well as in germany, and it´s right that bavarian and austrian dialects belong to the same linguistic group, but f.e. the dialect spoken in Vorarlberg, the region next to switzerland in the west of austria, doesn´t belong to the same group BUT... guess what? right: swiss dialects. don´t spread pseudofacts
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-erl, -l, el
Yes, those diminutive endings on -el and -l are south German as well.
South German diminutive endings include
-l
-el
-erl
-le
-li
North German diminutive endings include
-ke
-ken
-tje
-je
-ing
Yes, those diminutive endings on -el and -l are south German as well.
South German diminutive endings include
-l
-el
-erl
-le
-li
North German diminutive endings include
-ke
-ken
-tje
-je
-ing
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Hehe . . .
I wish Chrisell had as interesting an etymology as that - it would be so cute if Chrisel could be used as a Germanic diminutive of Christine!
But unfortunately it's far more pedestrian in origin - I created by combining my full name (Christine Ellen) into one name.
:-)
I wish Chrisell had as interesting an etymology as that - it would be so cute if Chrisel could be used as a Germanic diminutive of Christine!
But unfortunately it's far more pedestrian in origin - I created by combining my full name (Christine Ellen) into one name.
:-)
This message was edited 1/14/2007, 12:08 AM
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