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Help[Opinions] So should we bring back Lesley, Ashely, Shannon, Kelly
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Tracy and the rest?
I'm sorry but I'm tired of this argument. What is, is. Ariel is precieved in the US at this time as mostly female. Whining at everyone who disagrees with you is annoying.
I'm sorry but I'm tired of this argument. What is, is. Ariel is precieved in the US at this time as mostly female. Whining at everyone who disagrees with you is annoying.
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Ariel still ranks for a boy though
And is pretty steady in the mid 500s, so 400-500 boys are given the name every year.
Yes, girls have 3x that, but currently, I don't compare Ariel with Lesley, Ashley, Kelly, Shannon. It's more on par with Alexis, Finley, Payton. IMO.
Also for what it's worth, my first association with Ira is that I'm reminded of a few books that were read to me as a kid-- about a girl named Ira. I'd still be pretty pleased to see it on a boy though. Ariel too.
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So should we bring back Lesley, Ashely, Shannon, Kelly... Tracy and the rest?
Yes please. :)
And is pretty steady in the mid 500s, so 400-500 boys are given the name every year.
Yes, girls have 3x that, but currently, I don't compare Ariel with Lesley, Ashley, Kelly, Shannon. It's more on par with Alexis, Finley, Payton. IMO.
Also for what it's worth, my first association with Ira is that I'm reminded of a few books that were read to me as a kid-- about a girl named Ira. I'd still be pretty pleased to see it on a boy though. Ariel too.
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So should we bring back Lesley, Ashely, Shannon, Kelly... Tracy and the rest?
Yes please. :)
This message was edited 8/22/2010, 7:01 AM
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Well, depends on the name and parental prefs.
Lesley I've encountered and prob'ly wouldn't use for either gender, but it wouldn't shock me and make me think that was a boy w/ a girls' name.
First Ashley I ever met or knew of was a guy, so encountering a girl w/ that name for the first time was a surprise, but I got over it (just like people who didn't realize before that Ariel is, in fact, a boys' name as well can get over it as they get used to it and become a bit more educated).
Went to high school w/ a guy named Shannon. Surprised at first, but got over it.
Have met a few guys named Kelly.
Have met a male Stacey or 2, so Tracy wouldn't really phase me much... esp. since I'm aware it's been used in the past.
Perpetuating ignorance and being content w/ the ignorance surrounding oneself is also annoying. However, having said that, my main concern for an Ariel in the States would be how he'd be treated in light of people's ignorance on the matter. In NY or other Jewish communities, he'd possibly fit in just fine and might even know other guys named Ariel. In fact, at 1 time I had email contact w/ a Jewish GUY named Ariel who was from the States. At the same time, it might not be so wise in Tx. because of the macho attitudes that are sometimes promoted there and the way that might affect the boy in school with bullying and such. (of course, if DH is a solid football player and the mum's side of the fam is big enough he'll not be likely to be too shrimpy, they may be able to pull it off anyway)
Ironically enough, I think Ira may well get picked on in the same context since ignorance being the excuse for the treatment of a boy named Ariel might also extend to the name Ira, which might be foreign and fem sounding to a # of Americans (not all) just like a boy named Ariel would be...
Lesley I've encountered and prob'ly wouldn't use for either gender, but it wouldn't shock me and make me think that was a boy w/ a girls' name.
First Ashley I ever met or knew of was a guy, so encountering a girl w/ that name for the first time was a surprise, but I got over it (just like people who didn't realize before that Ariel is, in fact, a boys' name as well can get over it as they get used to it and become a bit more educated).
Went to high school w/ a guy named Shannon. Surprised at first, but got over it.
Have met a few guys named Kelly.
Have met a male Stacey or 2, so Tracy wouldn't really phase me much... esp. since I'm aware it's been used in the past.
Perpetuating ignorance and being content w/ the ignorance surrounding oneself is also annoying. However, having said that, my main concern for an Ariel in the States would be how he'd be treated in light of people's ignorance on the matter. In NY or other Jewish communities, he'd possibly fit in just fine and might even know other guys named Ariel. In fact, at 1 time I had email contact w/ a Jewish GUY named Ariel who was from the States. At the same time, it might not be so wise in Tx. because of the macho attitudes that are sometimes promoted there and the way that might affect the boy in school with bullying and such. (of course, if DH is a solid football player and the mum's side of the fam is big enough he'll not be likely to be too shrimpy, they may be able to pull it off anyway)
Ironically enough, I think Ira may well get picked on in the same context since ignorance being the excuse for the treatment of a boy named Ariel might also extend to the name Ira, which might be foreign and fem sounding to a # of Americans (not all) just like a boy named Ariel would be...
This message was edited 8/21/2010, 4:59 PM
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