[Opinions] Mary or Marie? (m)
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Mary, all the way. Marie, pronounced maREE, is not at home in English in the same way as, say, Louise or Annette. And where I live, if we see Marie written down, we assume it's pronounced MAHree, which makes it both unFrench and dated.
Are Marie biscuits exclusively South African? And how did Marie Lloyd pronounce her name? Anyone?
Are Marie biscuits exclusively South African? And how did Marie Lloyd pronounce her name? Anyone?
Inspired by Tisiphone’s January 30th response to Clunky old Names
I wrote a little last summer about my reverence toward the name Mary; I've since had the pleasure to meet a lady by this name - near my age, so I've reconsidered it with a clearer reflection.
Mary (or Marie) for Catholics in the Northeast part of the US – at least in Parishes I’ve belonged is somewhat untouchable due to an intransient value-—beyond that of God. The depth of reverence it holds is not easy to describe: I do not believe in the catholic Trinity, though raised to believe it – (I am somewhere between agnostic or atheist) yet somehow, I still hold the same reverence for the name Mary. I don’t remember knowing any boys by the name of Mary, yet if I did, (I would certainly remember); and no one with such a name, teased though he may be, can bear such denigration—even if the child is insulted at the moment, he will surpass it; this is the mindset in which I was raised. For me – the name Mary holds this value or meaning, not so much with Marie: others I believe understand it as Marie (or as either). Mary is the mother of God – but here the word mother does not involve gender, even with the ‘she’ or ‘her’ pronouns – no human concept, thought, activity, or notion can affect it. Mary is “of a purity &/or perfection that is beyond human reality”. It seems that US records show that quite a few males were given this name – but not during my lifetime: I would not think that the records would reflect confirmation names unless these names were registered with US Social Security Department - but for confirmation names, I do not know. Perhaps a priest in the US would amend his name legally & register it with the state & SSN department - but I've no certainty on this.
I wrote a little last summer about my reverence toward the name Mary; I've since had the pleasure to meet a lady by this name - near my age, so I've reconsidered it with a clearer reflection.
Mary (or Marie) for Catholics in the Northeast part of the US – at least in Parishes I’ve belonged is somewhat untouchable due to an intransient value-—beyond that of God. The depth of reverence it holds is not easy to describe: I do not believe in the catholic Trinity, though raised to believe it – (I am somewhere between agnostic or atheist) yet somehow, I still hold the same reverence for the name Mary. I don’t remember knowing any boys by the name of Mary, yet if I did, (I would certainly remember); and no one with such a name, teased though he may be, can bear such denigration—even if the child is insulted at the moment, he will surpass it; this is the mindset in which I was raised. For me – the name Mary holds this value or meaning, not so much with Marie: others I believe understand it as Marie (or as either). Mary is the mother of God – but here the word mother does not involve gender, even with the ‘she’ or ‘her’ pronouns – no human concept, thought, activity, or notion can affect it. Mary is “of a purity &/or perfection that is beyond human reality”. It seems that US records show that quite a few males were given this name – but not during my lifetime: I would not think that the records would reflect confirmation names unless these names were registered with US Social Security Department - but for confirmation names, I do not know. Perhaps a priest in the US would amend his name legally & register it with the state & SSN department - but I've no certainty on this.