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Help[Opinions] Re: Liberty
in reply to a message by I Love Jesus
There are some concepts and words I like as names, but this isn’t one of them. Even though it’s been around for a while, to me it feels like it lacks history.
Probably the main reason it rubs me the wrong way, though, is because I’m not from the U.S. I don’t think people inside the United States have a perspective on just how much their country takes certain words and obnixiously shoves them in the world’s face. Liberty is one of those words. It’s a wonderful concept that most of the world’s countries promote. But when we hear it spoken aloud, it’s usually in the context of, “LIBERTY! GUN RIGHTS! BURGERS! MONSTER TRUCKS! PATRIOTISM! RED, WHITE AND BLUE! WE’RE BETTER THAN YOU IN EVERY WAY AND I DON’T CARE IF THE EVIDENCE DOESN’T SUPPORT THAT! BOMBS! FREEDOM!”
I feel like part of the appeal is the ease of the nn Libby, but I think Elizabeth is a much better option for that.
Probably the main reason it rubs me the wrong way, though, is because I’m not from the U.S. I don’t think people inside the United States have a perspective on just how much their country takes certain words and obnixiously shoves them in the world’s face. Liberty is one of those words. It’s a wonderful concept that most of the world’s countries promote. But when we hear it spoken aloud, it’s usually in the context of, “LIBERTY! GUN RIGHTS! BURGERS! MONSTER TRUCKS! PATRIOTISM! RED, WHITE AND BLUE! WE’RE BETTER THAN YOU IN EVERY WAY AND I DON’T CARE IF THE EVIDENCE DOESN’T SUPPORT THAT! BOMBS! FREEDOM!”
I feel like part of the appeal is the ease of the nn Libby, but I think Elizabeth is a much better option for that.
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Real facts.
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That’s actually why I like this name. We were really the first country to take such a stand for liberty and shaped a lot of other people’s views on what liberty really looks like, and even with all the other free western societies there still hasn’t been one quite like us. Of course every country can say that about themselves, that there’s no one quite like them and that’s true and people should be proud of the good things their respective countries stand for and provide. Didn’t mean to rant, I’m just a bit weary of the constant bashing my country gets from others (it’s hard to get away with bashing any other country, I guess mine has to be the one) and hope to give others some insight into why gun loving, burger loving, patriotic Americans like myself are the way we are.
This message was edited 9/14/2018, 7:10 PM
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Okay, but Americans don't have to shove it in everyone else's face.
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Ugh I hate that we are such an obnoxious country in so many ways.
This is the same reason I don't like the name. I just imagine a bunch of rednecks yelling about patriotism and guns.
This is the same reason I don't like the name. I just imagine a bunch of rednecks yelling about patriotism and guns.
This message was edited 9/12/2018, 9:40 PM
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same
though i grew up in the US. really tired of hearing the word misused, years of reciting the pledge every morning and the "liberty and justice for all" feeling so hollow, etc.
though i grew up in the US. really tired of hearing the word misused, years of reciting the pledge every morning and the "liberty and justice for all" feeling so hollow, etc.
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