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Help[Opinions] Re: WDYT of Jream?
in reply to a message by mirfak
This comment comes off as very weird in a couple ways. If you found out what demographic it came from, you’d like it less??? This seems racist/classist at the root.
This comment also reads xenophobic…Mazikeen is a longstanding cultural name. Of course people have positive associations with their culture or people they have known. It’s not a recently invented name, as this name is.
Frankly we don’t need these attitudes on this site.
This comment also reads xenophobic…Mazikeen is a longstanding cultural name. Of course people have positive associations with their culture or people they have known. It’s not a recently invented name, as this name is.
Frankly we don’t need these attitudes on this site.
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I dunno, I was curious about the demographic who chose the name as well. At first I thought it was probably popular with African Americans, because of their tradition of using creative spellings of names. I know what the history is behind that.
But then I also thought about Mormons from Utah, and how they also enjoy very unusual spellings.
Then there's also that group of people who make their living as social media families - they also love unique names. Jream could be a phenomenon rising from the trend of giving all the children names with the same letter. I would be interested in seeing what sort of people favoured this name and if it IS mostly social media micro celebrities, yes, it honestly would make me like it less, I admit it. It probably is classist of me to look askance at those family vloggers with impossibly shiny lives and scary veneered smiles with kids named Jurnee, Jenesis, Jeneva, Jeep and Jream. That's something I'll have to work on.
But then I also thought about Mormons from Utah, and how they also enjoy very unusual spellings.
Then there's also that group of people who make their living as social media families - they also love unique names. Jream could be a phenomenon rising from the trend of giving all the children names with the same letter. I would be interested in seeing what sort of people favoured this name and if it IS mostly social media micro celebrities, yes, it honestly would make me like it less, I admit it. It probably is classist of me to look askance at those family vloggers with impossibly shiny lives and scary veneered smiles with kids named Jurnee, Jenesis, Jeneva, Jeep and Jream. That's something I'll have to work on.
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Not really. The demographic thing seems like if I found out 90% of people who named their kid Pollyanna are jaywalkers who wear purple polka dotted ponchos everyday (maybe that would change my impression of Pollyanna, maybe not, but if it did, race and class wouldn't necessarily be factors; I might be afraid if I was expressing fondness of Pollyanna, it would imply to people that I approve of jaywalking and purple polka dotted ponchos).
In contrast, acting like the only reason someone would not want to be associated stylewise with the Kardashians (and a demographic that would fellow trends they set) is because of race/class would be reductive (as if race is the only thing interesting enough about them to react to). Often race/class is a factor in why people dislike names, but it isn't always; like, with your reaction to Jream, I assumed you like standardized spelling rather than assuming you're classist, even though I could connect those theoretically if I felt like it.
Mazikeen has a "negative" meaning, which is something not everyone likes regardless of culture. It's clearly not xenophobic when the other example given was Riot. Mazikeen has been used as a Hebrew word for demons, but to my knowledge, wasn't used for used for humans until recently and still isn't in Hebrew.
In contrast, acting like the only reason someone would not want to be associated stylewise with the Kardashians (and a demographic that would fellow trends they set) is because of race/class would be reductive (as if race is the only thing interesting enough about them to react to). Often race/class is a factor in why people dislike names, but it isn't always; like, with your reaction to Jream, I assumed you like standardized spelling rather than assuming you're classist, even though I could connect those theoretically if I felt like it.
Mazikeen has a "negative" meaning, which is something not everyone likes regardless of culture. It's clearly not xenophobic when the other example given was Riot. Mazikeen has been used as a Hebrew word for demons, but to my knowledge, wasn't used for used for humans until recently and still isn't in Hebrew.
This message was edited 11/13/2023, 8:52 PM
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I didn't mean it like that.
Mazikeen isn't a longstanding cultural name, afaik, it's the name of a demon used in a comic book and TV show.
Where did you get your information? Educate me.
Mazikeen isn't a longstanding cultural name, afaik, it's the name of a demon used in a comic book and TV show.
Where did you get your information? Educate me.
This message was edited 11/13/2023, 3:05 PM
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