[Opinions] Azaria
Would any australian actually consider this name for the child or is it still a bit too much "A dingo stole my baby"
P.S in high school, there was a girl called Aziza (Ah-zee-zah) WDYT?
P.S in high school, there was a girl called Aziza (Ah-zee-zah) WDYT?
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I can certainly understand why it would be a very eccentric parent who would use this name in Australia.
However, I know a little girl named Azaria in Omaha. She is one of 8 children, and all of them have names that the mother deliberately chose or created to be "unique" in her mind. Their first seven are in order:
Elycia (girl)
Braden (boy)
Weslyn (girl)
Azaria (girl)
Taelen (boy)
Kenden (boy)
Eluria (girl)
Number 8 is a boy but I forget his name. I have a call in to his grandparents about that! :)
Also, after the first three kids were born, she noticed all their names had six letters, and decided she would continue that pattern. And she's very upset that Braden turned out to be fairly common and jokes that she should change his name!
However, I know a little girl named Azaria in Omaha. She is one of 8 children, and all of them have names that the mother deliberately chose or created to be "unique" in her mind. Their first seven are in order:
Elycia (girl)
Braden (boy)
Weslyn (girl)
Azaria (girl)
Taelen (boy)
Kenden (boy)
Eluria (girl)
Number 8 is a boy but I forget his name. I have a call in to his grandparents about that! :)
Also, after the first three kids were born, she noticed all their names had six letters, and decided she would continue that pattern. And she's very upset that Braden turned out to be fairly common and jokes that she should change his name!
Even I (who live in Sweden) associate Azaria with the dingo case. There was a TV film (or maybe even two different films) about this case. I have never before or after heard this name, but it is a beautiful name and it stuck in my mind.
Aziza looks beautiful too.
- She said he made a racial slur!
- Racial? She is Swedish!
- Maybe he called her Meatball.
Equality never goes out of style.
Aziza looks beautiful too.
- She said he made a racial slur!
- Racial? She is Swedish!
- Maybe he called her Meatball.
Equality never goes out of style.
I loved the name Azaria back in 1996 when I was studying Law and covered the Chamberlain case. But even as a 16-year-old I only thought about using it as a middle name.
The case was too divisive and socially traumatic to contemplate using the name.
~Chrisell~
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The case was too divisive and socially traumatic to contemplate using the name.
Proudly Australian
www.archaeochrisell.blogspot.com
I've never heard of that. (I'm in the US.) I'm not sure how much I like Azaria for a girl (boy is good, though, pron ee-zar-ya) and Aziza is kind of weird for a girl because Aziz/Aziza are masculine for "dear". Azizta is generally feminine and I know it best as a nickname.
this is what we're referring to
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azaria_Chamberlain_disappearance
Oh: her full name was Azaria Chantel Loren Chamberlain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azaria_Chamberlain_disappearance
Oh: her full name was Azaria Chantel Loren Chamberlain.
that is really sad.
I'm really not sure that people here in the US would make a connection, but it might in Aus if there has been an increase in attacks.
I'm really not sure that people here in the US would make a connection, but it might in Aus if there has been an increase in attacks.
um. the point i was making was that the case was so public and socially divise in australia that it wouldn't be the wisest thing to call your child.
Hmmm, have i caused you to think we're all under attack from dingoes here? dingo attacks are incredibly rare.
Hmmm, have i caused you to think we're all under attack from dingoes here? dingo attacks are incredibly rare.
no, it was the wikipedia article I read that implied that attacks were growing more increasingly common.
and I think that I agreed in my second post it wouldn't be a good idea.
:)
and I think that I agreed in my second post it wouldn't be a good idea.
:)
Actually . . .
Dingo attacks aren't rare at all, but most of them happen on Fraser Island not on the mainland. From the www.answers.com entry on dingos:
Dingos have received bad publicity in recent years as a result of the highly publicised Azaria Chamberlain disappearance and also because of dingo attacks on Fraser Island in Queensland. In 2001 around 200 dingoes lived on the island, and 20 people were attacked in the preceding 6 years.[8] In April 2001 a 9 year old was killed in one such attack near Waddy Point on Fraser Island.[8] This lead to a cull of the animals which were actually protected by law. The owners of the island, the Ngulungbara people, fought the cull through a legal injunction.[9] In all 65 dingoes were eventually culled. In 2004 more legal battles began after a dingo entered a bedroom in Kingfisher Bay resort where 2 young children were present.[10] More recently in September 2006 a dingo was shot dead by Parks and Wildlife rangers after attacking a 4 year old child who had been playing in shallow water near Eurong on the island.[11]
In general, no, we're not "under attack" from dingos and the attacks aren't really increasing, but it is a major issue in areas where dingos are common.
~Chrisell~
Proudly Australian
www.archaeochrisell.blogspot.com
Dingo attacks aren't rare at all, but most of them happen on Fraser Island not on the mainland. From the www.answers.com entry on dingos:
Dingos have received bad publicity in recent years as a result of the highly publicised Azaria Chamberlain disappearance and also because of dingo attacks on Fraser Island in Queensland. In 2001 around 200 dingoes lived on the island, and 20 people were attacked in the preceding 6 years.[8] In April 2001 a 9 year old was killed in one such attack near Waddy Point on Fraser Island.[8] This lead to a cull of the animals which were actually protected by law. The owners of the island, the Ngulungbara people, fought the cull through a legal injunction.[9] In all 65 dingoes were eventually culled. In 2004 more legal battles began after a dingo entered a bedroom in Kingfisher Bay resort where 2 young children were present.[10] More recently in September 2006 a dingo was shot dead by Parks and Wildlife rangers after attacking a 4 year old child who had been playing in shallow water near Eurong on the island.[11]
In general, no, we're not "under attack" from dingos and the attacks aren't really increasing, but it is a major issue in areas where dingos are common.
Proudly Australian
www.archaeochrisell.blogspot.com
Is "cull" the same as "kill"?
This word is not in my dictionary.
- She said he made a racial slur!
- Racial? She is Swedish!
- Maybe he called her Meatball.
Equality never goes out of style.
This word is not in my dictionary.
- She said he made a racial slur!
- Racial? She is Swedish!
- Maybe he called her Meatball.
Equality never goes out of style.
A "cull" is a planned animal kill aimed at reducing the numbers of an animal that has become so over-populated that it is causing a nuisance.
~Chrisell~
Proudly Australian
www.archaeochrisell.blogspot.com
Proudly Australian
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I never heard anything more terrible in my life. Killing innocent animals because WE think there are too many. That's sick.
Um . . .
We think there are too many because they don't have enough food for their numbers, so the ones that miss out on the available normal prey attack and sometimes kill small children because they're hungry. Would you prefer us to feed them children than cull them?
Culls of other animals have also occurred where the animals had insufficient resources. If you've got 10,000 kangaroos and you *know* 4,000 of them are going to starve to death, it's a pretty horrible sight to just let them starve. Better to humanely cull them than wait for them to die.
~Chrisell~
Proudly Australian
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We think there are too many because they don't have enough food for their numbers, so the ones that miss out on the available normal prey attack and sometimes kill small children because they're hungry. Would you prefer us to feed them children than cull them?
Culls of other animals have also occurred where the animals had insufficient resources. If you've got 10,000 kangaroos and you *know* 4,000 of them are going to starve to death, it's a pretty horrible sight to just let them starve. Better to humanely cull them than wait for them to die.
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This message was edited 10/29/2006, 2:25 PM
why WE would think that
There are also animals that are brought by humans to a foreign country (like Australia when the first settlers came), they ran out in the wild and the problem was that they didn't have natural enemies, so they disrupted the balance in the ecosystem. Then these animals were controlled by humans by killing them when they become to numerous. Then it becomes a matterof people cleaning up their own mess. Personally, I don't like it (I'd prefer sterilisation of some other measures).
There are also animals that are brought by humans to a foreign country (like Australia when the first settlers came), they ran out in the wild and the problem was that they didn't have natural enemies, so they disrupted the balance in the ecosystem. Then these animals were controlled by humans by killing them when they become to numerous. Then it becomes a matterof people cleaning up their own mess. Personally, I don't like it (I'd prefer sterilisation of some other measures).
This message was edited 10/29/2006, 8:31 AM
Thank you. Though whether there is an overpopulation and nuisance or not, is obvious sometimes controversial.
- She said he made a racial slur!
- Racial? She is Swedish!
- Maybe he called her Meatball.
Equality never goes out of style.
- She said he made a racial slur!
- Racial? She is Swedish!
- Maybe he called her Meatball.
Equality never goes out of style.
I don't see why not. What happend to the girl was very sad, but I wouldn't let that stop me from using it. Azaria is a male name though I prefer it only for a boy.
ETA: I'm not from Australia, just to let you know. Even then some I wouldn't let one incident ruin a name for life.
"a boy's best friend is his mother" - Norman Bates in Psycho
ETA: I'm not from Australia, just to let you know. Even then some I wouldn't let one incident ruin a name for life.
This message was edited 10/28/2006, 4:32 PM
"ETA: I'm not from Australia, just to let you know. Even then some I wouldn't let one incident ruin a name for life"
Lol. I can understand how someone from a country like America would feel that way: but bear in mind that the US population is more than ten times bigger than Australia's population (298 million vs 20 million). Because we're smaller, we have less crime, and dramatic crimes (and this one was dramatic, divisive and traumatic to the nation's consciousness) linger in the national memory for much longer.
Even 26 years on and after it's become completely clear that little Azaria was killed by a dingo, it's still a hot topic. And it is still very divisive - some peoples' prejudices still don't allow them to exonerate Lindy Chamberlain.
Azaria would be usable in the US, I'm sure, but it would be a cruel thing to do to an Australian child.
edit: typo
~Chrisell~
Proudly Australian
www.archaeochrisell.blogspot.com
Lol. I can understand how someone from a country like America would feel that way: but bear in mind that the US population is more than ten times bigger than Australia's population (298 million vs 20 million). Because we're smaller, we have less crime, and dramatic crimes (and this one was dramatic, divisive and traumatic to the nation's consciousness) linger in the national memory for much longer.
Even 26 years on and after it's become completely clear that little Azaria was killed by a dingo, it's still a hot topic. And it is still very divisive - some peoples' prejudices still don't allow them to exonerate Lindy Chamberlain.
Azaria would be usable in the US, I'm sure, but it would be a cruel thing to do to an Australian child.
edit: typo
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This message was edited 10/28/2006, 5:26 PM
Oh i see! As stupid as this sounds, I didn't know Australia was smaller populated [yes I know, lol]. So I can see how it would last longer. That's nice it has less crime! No fair, lol. I understand it better now. :) Thanks for explaning.
"a boy's best friend is his mother" - Norman Bates in Psycho
I am in Aus and i just think it's still too much to call your child that.
btw: i had no idea it was a male name.
btw: i had no idea it was a male name.
When did the incident happen by the way? I've heard of it, but I forgot when it happend.
"a boy's best friend is his mother" - Norman Bates in Psycho
No way!
Dingo got my baby is waaay to much to ever use that name. Its quite nice (prefer it on a boy) but yeah.. way too much..
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Dingo got my baby is waaay to much to ever use that name. Its quite nice (prefer it on a boy) but yeah.. way too much..
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