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Help[Facts] Re: The real meaning of Tatiana: Missing link found?
in reply to a message by noro226
I think the "fairy princess" meaning comes from confusing Tatiana with Titania, which Shakespeare used for a fairy queen in the play, A Midsummer Night's Dream. Supposedly Titania came from the word "titan," so it's not really related to Tatiana at all.
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I love this, i have been hearing this name alot lately from the Holy spirit. So this makes alot of sense to me. Thank you.
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I have also been hearing this name while praying in the spirit, and this led me here!
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Sound similarity of isolated words is pretty slim evidence to go on ... Since, most words we are considering are pretty small (you are considering only two consonants in your thinking here, for example), and the languages we are dealing with has limited number of sounds (may be twenty consonants), so you can't form too many such words in either language: in this case, may be some 400, and root reduplication could be a possible situation in your example. Since the number of meanings which such small words have to express is pretty large (no language has a 20 syllable word expressing "help!!!" for example), they are almost guaranteed to use up most of these combinations, so random coincidences abound all over the place. I am not saying that your example is wrong, only that the evidence is flimsy.
When people's speech changes as ancestral speech communities diverge, one typically finds that identically perceived sounds in different words (what are called "phonemes") tend to stay identical when they are in the same phonetic context: thus we easily see that English who which and what all start with the "same" sound wh- If we postulate that another language also derived from the same speech community (in some distant past) that English came from, and two of these words start with kv- in that language, we should at first expect that the third will also start with the same kv-. Of course, sometimes the correspondence rule will be more complicated like who- and wha- go to some sound, whereas whi- goes to something else; but *most* words should fall into some kind of pattern. The absence of a discernible pattern is pretty good reason not to attribute a common origin to the languages.
When people's speech changes as ancestral speech communities diverge, one typically finds that identically perceived sounds in different words (what are called "phonemes") tend to stay identical when they are in the same phonetic context: thus we easily see that English who which and what all start with the "same" sound wh- If we postulate that another language also derived from the same speech community (in some distant past) that English came from, and two of these words start with kv- in that language, we should at first expect that the third will also start with the same kv-. Of course, sometimes the correspondence rule will be more complicated like who- and wha- go to some sound, whereas whi- goes to something else; but *most* words should fall into some kind of pattern. The absence of a discernible pattern is pretty good reason not to attribute a common origin to the languages.
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