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My mother works in a medical office and she had a patient come in with the name Leejam. After calling "Leejam...Leejam?" in the waiting room a few times, there was a loud sigh followed by a young woman with her son standing up and she said "It's pronounced 'Liam'"
This child will be called "lee-jam" much more than Liam, based on that spelling, in my opinion. Why be so kr8tyv when Liam is so simple?
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This child will be called "lee-jam" much more than Liam, based on that spelling, in my opinion. Why be so kr8tyv when Liam is so simple?
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This message was edited 8/7/2014, 6:23 AM
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Lee is nice. Leejam is a horrible spelling of Liam. Sorry. Liam is one of those names that look best as only 1 spelling.
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Ridiculous. Leeyam would have made a little more sense, although people would still putthe emphasis in the wrong place.
I wonder how long it'll be before Leejam's parents decide to just start spelling it Liam to avoid confusion.
I wonder how long it'll be before Leejam's parents decide to just start spelling it Liam to avoid confusion.
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Leejam is ridiculous. The mother no doubt has heard people pronounce Leejam phonetically before, and so, should have immediately stood up when your mother called the name. Instead, the mother let your mom call the name several times so that drama could be made out of the situation.
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What gets me the most is that people using these ridiculous kre8if spelling get irritated when you don't pronounce it the way they want it pronounced. Pro-tip: If you want it pronounced correctly, spell it correctly.
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It's horrible. Sounds like someone who got stuck in his Lee jeans. A Lee jam. Or maybe he made jam out of his jeans.
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What gets me the most is the Lee- bit. I'm fine with the J. If she'd found a more intuitive alternate, European inspired spelling, I could maybe even get behind it, even though that goes against pretty much everything I've ever said about alternate spellings. Liam is just so downmarket to me that giving it that European twist would probably do nothing but improve it - Ljam, maybe? I mean, I wouldn't love, or even like, seeing it, but if I did I'd probably just think, "Oh, that's kind of clever." Like I say, it's definitely an exception for me, but I'd really be happy to not be seeing just another Liam.
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Ljam is relatively clever, and I am not usually a Kre8tive speller (though I do like to use out-dated spellings).
I just can't get behind taking short, simple names and making them longer.
Ex: I know a little girl named Meighyah - Maya would be so much simpler.
I just can't get behind taking short, simple names and making them longer.
Ex: I know a little girl named Meighyah - Maya would be so much simpler.
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Yeah, I was having a look through Liam's international variants and found Viljami, which is Finnish, and thought why not? I don't know how well it would work in Finland, maybe someone on here will know better, but I still think it would be at least a little more interesting than Liam.
I'm definitely not a creative speller either, I prefer legitimate forms, so I totally agree with you. Meighya is dreadful.
I'm definitely not a creative speller either, I prefer legitimate forms, so I totally agree with you. Meighya is dreadful.
This message was edited 8/7/2014, 12:26 PM
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Leejam is just kind of ridiculous. I agree with you that the poor kid will be called 'lee-jam' more than Liam, and also that the name is better (and less confusing) with the original spelling.
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My guess is that he will decide to just go by Lee once he gets to school-age.
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I would hope so.
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Leejam looks like it should be Leejam. I would have done the same thing, standing there calling out "leejam". I'm not even sure how I would kre8tyfy Liam so that the pronunciation would be clearer... Lijam? Lyyam? Leigham! But then people would think he is a girl. Quel horreur!
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and more to the point ...
Why does she get huffy when people don't automatically know how to pronounce Leejam? Jerk. I really hate it when people blame others for being confused by confusion they themselves created.
Why does she get huffy when people don't automatically know how to pronounce Leejam? Jerk. I really hate it when people blame others for being confused by confusion they themselves created.
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I agree.
We chose to name our daughter Clarisse (as opposed to Clarice), assuming that people would know how to pronounce it.
They don't.
She is commonly referred to as either , klar-is, klah-riss-ee or like Clarissa. The thing is - I can't be angry with people for not knowing, and sometimes I don't even correct them if they are strangers because it doesnt matter THAT much to make a big deal about it.
We chose to name our daughter Clarisse (as opposed to Clarice), assuming that people would know how to pronounce it.
They don't.
She is commonly referred to as either , klar-is, klah-riss-ee or like Clarissa. The thing is - I can't be angry with people for not knowing, and sometimes I don't even correct them if they are strangers because it doesnt matter THAT much to make a big deal about it.
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I've gotten used to having to correct people on the pronunciation of my name. Some people don't even try, but I've gotten "Amelia" more than once. Luckily more and more people have been saying it correctly, which is awesome, especially since it's so simple to understand.
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And this is why I hold "cree8tyv" names in disdain. It's the parents' fault if they look like fools and their children are teased mercilessly.
This message was edited 8/7/2014, 12:24 PM
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I'm not teased, and I like my name, though it's one of the few in that category that I do like.
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"because it doesnt matter THAT much to make a big deal about it."
I do the same thing when people try to pronounce my long German surname. "Close enough."
I do the same thing when people try to pronounce my long German surname. "Close enough."
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My married name is an Arabic one that people are often hesitant to say, however, they usually get it, as you say, close enough, since what you read is what you say. Not going to fuss about it.
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I would have done the very same as your mother. I would never have guessed Liam from that.
I think that English-speaking countries have to be cognizant of that fact that j is pronounced a certain way in our language, and 'y' is the letter they are looking for. If you live somewhere and the language dictates a certain sound, you cannot expect people to just know the pronunciation - unless it is a common name.
However, it goes the other way too. Sometimes we assume an exotic pronunciation and are wrong.
For example, I made the mistake the other day of calling a woman by her name Maria Jorge, and saying Maria Hor-hay... she looked at me and said "it's george".
I think that English-speaking countries have to be cognizant of that fact that j is pronounced a certain way in our language, and 'y' is the letter they are looking for. If you live somewhere and the language dictates a certain sound, you cannot expect people to just know the pronunciation - unless it is a common name.
However, it goes the other way too. Sometimes we assume an exotic pronunciation and are wrong.
For example, I made the mistake the other day of calling a woman by her name Maria Jorge, and saying Maria Hor-hay... she looked at me and said "it's george".
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Pretty stupid.
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How was it spelt? I went to school with a Leigham. :/
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